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		<title>By: munmee</title>
		<link>http://www.conversationsforabetterworld.com/2009/12/violence-it-starts-with-language/comment-page-1/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>munmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nichole, I fully agree to your view that violence against women need not always be physical,it could also be in the form of subjecting the GIRL CHILD since childhood into a mental and social conditioning that would ensure that she remains prim and proper throughout her live offering her services but asking nothing for herself. In India this type of  mental conditioning is ingrained into the very fabric of the Indian society.We women are taught to be the &quot;Khandan ki Izzat&quot; that is the prestige of the family and doing anything that is against the set norm of the Indian society by the women of the family is sure to bring bad name for the family.But all sins are forgiven for the men of the family coz they are the &quot;Khandan ka Chirag
 that is the upholder of  the family name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nichole, I fully agree to your view that violence against women need not always be physical,it could also be in the form of subjecting the GIRL CHILD since childhood into a mental and social conditioning that would ensure that she remains prim and proper throughout her live offering her services but asking nothing for herself. In India this type of  mental conditioning is ingrained into the very fabric of the Indian society.We women are taught to be the &#8220;Khandan ki Izzat&#8221; that is the prestige of the family and doing anything that is against the set norm of the Indian society by the women of the family is sure to bring bad name for the family.But all sins are forgiven for the men of the family coz they are the &#8220;Khandan ka Chirag<br />
 that is the upholder of  the family name.</p>
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		<title>By: Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comments expresed by Mr. Stan might have some relevence to the country he/she belongs to, but globlly it not what pic he paits,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comments expresed by Mr. Stan might have some relevence to the country he/she belongs to, but globlly it not what pic he paits,</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Caputo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Caputo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to read my post and comment on it so
thoroughly. I&#039;m happy to have your response.

In my defense, this is an introductory piece. Please do not misread my
narrowed topic here as the whole of my views. It does a disservice to
me and to you.

Unfortunately, in this small space, I have not been able to express
the entirety of my views, because the topic is violence against
&quot;women&quot; (and not &quot;men&quot; or any of the other genders). I prefer the word
&quot;humanist&quot; to &quot;feminist,&quot; and would do away with it if it weren&#039;t the
umbrella term assigned our movement of equality so long ago. It is the
context under which people speak about gender inequalities.

I agree with most of what you have said in your comments. It is not
unbelievable to me that men are victims of violence, ( I have seen it
firsthand) and that&#039;s why I suggest what I do regarding language.

I do speak about the expectations of boys to be violent and
aggressive, and not &quot;weak.&quot; There is a great gender poster you&#039;ve
probably heard of that starts with the words: &quot;For every girl tired of
acting weak when she is strong, there is a boy tired of being strong
when he feels vulnerable. . .&quot; Betty Friedan, in the 1997 edition of
The Feminine Mystique talks about how our boys are now the ones in
&quot;trouble,&quot; and even Esquire ran &quot;The Problem with Boys&quot; in 2006,
discussing how &quot;women&#039;s empowerment&quot; has had a negative affect on the
male youth of today. I address the &quot;mixed messages we send boys&quot; with
these pieces of journalism in mind.

I thank you again for your response. It&#039;s very important to me that I
am perceived as I actually am, and your comments will be on my mind in
the composition of any further pieces. As a journalist, it is my very
last intention to misrepresent what I consider to be the truth, or to
turn off peers to the greater mission of equality.

We are fighting the same fight, Stan. Thank you for your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to read my post and comment on it so<br />
thoroughly. I&#8217;m happy to have your response.</p>
<p>In my defense, this is an introductory piece. Please do not misread my<br />
narrowed topic here as the whole of my views. It does a disservice to<br />
me and to you.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in this small space, I have not been able to express<br />
the entirety of my views, because the topic is violence against<br />
&#8220;women&#8221; (and not &#8220;men&#8221; or any of the other genders). I prefer the word<br />
&#8220;humanist&#8221; to &#8220;feminist,&#8221; and would do away with it if it weren&#8217;t the<br />
umbrella term assigned our movement of equality so long ago. It is the<br />
context under which people speak about gender inequalities.</p>
<p>I agree with most of what you have said in your comments. It is not<br />
unbelievable to me that men are victims of violence, ( I have seen it<br />
firsthand) and that&#8217;s why I suggest what I do regarding language.</p>
<p>I do speak about the expectations of boys to be violent and<br />
aggressive, and not &#8220;weak.&#8221; There is a great gender poster you&#8217;ve<br />
probably heard of that starts with the words: &#8220;For every girl tired of<br />
acting weak when she is strong, there is a boy tired of being strong<br />
when he feels vulnerable. . .&#8221; Betty Friedan, in the 1997 edition of<br />
The Feminine Mystique talks about how our boys are now the ones in<br />
&#8220;trouble,&#8221; and even Esquire ran &#8220;The Problem with Boys&#8221; in 2006,<br />
discussing how &#8220;women&#8217;s empowerment&#8221; has had a negative affect on the<br />
male youth of today. I address the &#8220;mixed messages we send boys&#8221; with<br />
these pieces of journalism in mind.</p>
<p>I thank you again for your response. It&#8217;s very important to me that I<br />
am perceived as I actually am, and your comments will be on my mind in<br />
the composition of any further pieces. As a journalist, it is my very<br />
last intention to misrepresent what I consider to be the truth, or to<br />
turn off peers to the greater mission of equality.</p>
<p>We are fighting the same fight, Stan. Thank you for your input.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;m all for equality. Thats why your post is unsettling to me.

1) Please stop quoting that half-truth of a wage gap. It has nothing to do with opression or discrimination. 

2) This might sound unbelievable to you but men can also be victims of domestic violence by women. And they&#039;re not few in number as you might expect.

3) Putting all violent crimes together, men far outnumber women as victims. Life for men is much more dangerous.

4) Nearly all the dangerous and hated jobs are virtually exclusive to men. Nearly all job related deaths are male. Everybody&#039;s complaining about the supposed &#039;glass ceiling&#039; but ignoring the obvious &#039;glass floor&#039;.

5) Male suicide is 200% higher than female!!!!! Why doesn&#039;t anybody care about that? Its a disgrace to us all.

6) You say little girls are discouraged from cutting their hair short. Meanwhile boys are being FORCED to cut their hair short. Which is worse?

7) In EXACTLY the same circumstances, women are every bit as violent as men. So we must look at the rotten circumstances most of these men must experience that make them violent. Remember, violence is the language of the helpless.


But I agree entirely with you approach. We must change the language we use in order to set the standard for true equality. Here are some areas we need to adjust in order to achieve equality:

1) Men are humans too. Their suffering and dying is as bad as women&#039;s (repeat that sentence 1000 times).

2) Today, men are the weaker sex in all areas that matter. That means we have to take better care of them.

3) Men are biologically programmed to seek women&#039;s favor. If women want men to change, all they have to do is favor those who fit their needs. As long as women mostly go for &#039;bad boys&#039; , that&#039;s what we&#039;ll keep breeding. So if that bothers you, then address the women who are responsible for it.

4) Economic and political power are only a small part of the game of life. Social and sexual power usually go a lot deeper. We must take all forms of power into consideration before we can tell how it is distributed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m all for equality. Thats why your post is unsettling to me.</p>
<p>1) Please stop quoting that half-truth of a wage gap. It has nothing to do with opression or discrimination. </p>
<p>2) This might sound unbelievable to you but men can also be victims of domestic violence by women. And they&#8217;re not few in number as you might expect.</p>
<p>3) Putting all violent crimes together, men far outnumber women as victims. Life for men is much more dangerous.</p>
<p>4) Nearly all the dangerous and hated jobs are virtually exclusive to men. Nearly all job related deaths are male. Everybody&#8217;s complaining about the supposed &#8216;glass ceiling&#8217; but ignoring the obvious &#8216;glass floor&#8217;.</p>
<p>5) Male suicide is 200% higher than female!!!!! Why doesn&#8217;t anybody care about that? Its a disgrace to us all.</p>
<p>6) You say little girls are discouraged from cutting their hair short. Meanwhile boys are being FORCED to cut their hair short. Which is worse?</p>
<p>7) In EXACTLY the same circumstances, women are every bit as violent as men. So we must look at the rotten circumstances most of these men must experience that make them violent. Remember, violence is the language of the helpless.</p>
<p>But I agree entirely with you approach. We must change the language we use in order to set the standard for true equality. Here are some areas we need to adjust in order to achieve equality:</p>
<p>1) Men are humans too. Their suffering and dying is as bad as women&#8217;s (repeat that sentence 1000 times).</p>
<p>2) Today, men are the weaker sex in all areas that matter. That means we have to take better care of them.</p>
<p>3) Men are biologically programmed to seek women&#8217;s favor. If women want men to change, all they have to do is favor those who fit their needs. As long as women mostly go for &#8216;bad boys&#8217; , that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ll keep breeding. So if that bothers you, then address the women who are responsible for it.</p>
<p>4) Economic and political power are only a small part of the game of life. Social and sexual power usually go a lot deeper. We must take all forms of power into consideration before we can tell how it is distributed.</p>
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